AG pastors and the Emergent Church
January 14, 2008
The following are comments from AG pastors regarding the Emergent Church. These comments are in response to an article by Earl Creps, Professor of Leadership and Spiritual Renewal, Assemblies of God Theological Seminary.
Here is a link to the original post from Creps.
Earl, I believe the answer to your question is NO. I have been involved in the conversation for some time and my conclusion is that the EC/EM cherry pick Scriptures to contradict fundamental truths about salvation. I will not be too extensive here but if you do some research you will find they fall perfectly into the description of 2 Peter 2. I hope you do not feel pulled in that direction.
I was reading about the Emerging Church, Brian McLaren and Earl Creps. I have not found anything in writing from the Emerging Church condoning the gay lifestyle but the fact that Brian McLaren came to Sherwood AR and spoke at The Open Door Community Church, Sherwood AR, (which is where I live), speaks volumes to me. This is an openly ‘gay and married’ pastor and his partner. Just thought I’d practice being a ‘watcher on the wall’. Shelivs4JC
I’m an A/G Senior Pastor in NY and I have to say Earl Creps is nothing more than a false teacher. But many of you progressive (wolves in sheep’s clothing) emergent church leaders leading the blind wouldn’t know that since, none of you have a very good foundation in sound doctrine. Oh goodness sound the alarm (sirens, bells, and whistler going off) yes I said sound doctrine and that is what the emergent movement does not have on its side.
The entire emergent system is the New World Order-One world Anti-Christ religious system that was prophecies in 2Ti 4:4, “And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.” And other places.
Earl Creeps should have his credentials removed and he should be thrown out of our A/G seminary as of yesterday. That goes for all the apostates in the A/G who agree with him from the top down. Please do spare me the “New Age semantically attacks” I have heard it all. Stop following the anti-Christ system and get back to the book and stop denying the power thereof with your satanic (emergent) form of godlessness.
Hi Earl,
Would you mind posting or directing me to your definition of “fundamental”? I know you state in your book that you are “painfully orthodox” in your theology, so that would seem to put you at odds with the EC as there is quite the dog’s breakfast of orthodoxy and blatant heretical teaching within that movement.
As you recommend, I checked out Bryan Thompson’s article on theOOZE.
It illustrates his inter-spiritual, emergent, synchronistic approach to spirituality which places experience over Scripture (e.g., God in everyone and everything—even those who don’t believe in God). I’ve reviewed theOOZE website and find it presents the same synchronistic approach to truth expressed by Bryan.
By referring me to theOOZE, are you promoting the views presented there? If so, even though we may both be part of the AOG, you are certainly endorsing a different gospel. And as a member of the Northern California/Nevada District, I hope Bryan’s views (such as those on centering prayer) are not reflected in your ministry in Berkeley
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February 14th, 2008 at 1:47 pm
Hey brother - as an A/G pastor whose comment you quote above - the emergent church isn’t the only deception lurking today - another equally as great. or greater deception is known as “Calvinism”. Its dangerous misrepresentation of the gospel is both dangerous and unbiblical.
February 14th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Eric,
I am curious, as an A/G pastor, how are you employing Jude 3 against the insurgence of the emergent mindset in the A/G?
Are you concerned enough to call out seminary professors teaching such heresy.
Now for the comment on Calvinism. I have no doubt that some, taking the title Calvinist, are a danger to truth in the Church. For me, I never have and never will take on the label Arminian or Calvinist. I think the following is helpful here:
http://teampyro.blogspot.com/2007/01/wesley-and-simeon-daggers-at-noon.html
August 15th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
I just want to thank Shane for putting up this sight. I do know of Shane & will speak of his passion of the truth & his dedication to the Lord. Man, I appreciate ya & support ya in your love for the Word. Blessings-Scott
As someone who graduated from an Assemblies of God institution this horrifies me. For years, the Assemblies have upheld a strong view of Scripture & a suspicious view of universalism, as far as my experience has been. This saddens me deeply but it’s not suprising. Paul warned of us of people from within that would creep & teach false doctrine. If these things are true, the church needs to clean house. Oh God have mercy on us…lets call things for what they are…