Comments on: Mark Driscoll Names Some Names in the Emergent Church http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-emergent-leaders/ A place to grow in the wisdom and knowledge of God! Sun, 05 Sep 2010 19:05:57 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Chris http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-emergent-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1997 Chris Mon, 29 Jun 2009 08:23:37 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-has-some-strong-word-for-some-emergent-leaders/#comment-1997 Shane, I think it's great that you're so passionate about differing between what is heresy and truth.. However, I think you should look into men like Erwin McManus and Donald Miller a bit closer before you judge them to be heretical. Check out their doctrines.. read one of their books.. talk to one of the thousands of people that have come to know Jesus because of these men's passion. Their style may not be what you prefer.. but one's preference doesn't make someone heretical. Shane,
I think it’s great that you’re so passionate about differing between what is heresy and truth.. However, I think you should look into men like Erwin McManus and Donald Miller a bit closer before you judge them to be heretical. Check out their doctrines.. read one of their books.. talk to one of the thousands of people that have come to know Jesus because of these men’s passion. Their style may not be what you prefer.. but one’s preference doesn’t make someone heretical.

]]> By: Pirsey http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-emergent-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1976 Pirsey Fri, 24 Apr 2009 11:09:26 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-has-some-strong-word-for-some-emergent-leaders/#comment-1976 After reading this article, I feel that I really need more info. Can you share some more resources please? After reading this article, I feel that I really need more info. Can you share some more resources please?

]]> By: Ben http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-emergent-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1967 Ben Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:11:21 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-has-some-strong-word-for-some-emergent-leaders/#comment-1967 my definition of heresy is the ancient definition - Apostle's Creed, and Nicene Creed, etc. my definition of heresy is the ancient definition – Apostle’s Creed, and Nicene Creed, etc.

]]> By: Ben http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-emergent-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-1966 Ben Tue, 07 Apr 2009 02:09:34 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-has-some-strong-word-for-some-emergent-leaders/#comment-1966 Something that was very hard for me to appreciate about what Driscoll was saying is that he at one point was very simply giving false information. I'm not suggesting that he intentionally did that, but he very obviously did not read "Slave, Women, and Homosexuals" (or he did and is changing what the book was talking about). No where in the book does the author say that we will get to a point where homosexuality will be biblically correct. The author uses slaves and women as examples of themes in the Bible that seem to take an upward swing, and then uses homosexuality as a theme that very obviously never takes that upward swing... therefore it never changes at all from the position that it is wrong is God's eyes. Mistakes are understandable, but with this mistake he basically claimed to have evidence that Bell was fine with homosexuality... not a accusation to throw around lightly. I am not in agreement with Driscoll on his claims of heresy necessarily. Also, Bell, McLaren, and Pagitt are at three different "distances" from the conservatives view of orthodoxy (in their respective order). Something that was very hard for me to appreciate about what Driscoll was saying is that he at one point was very simply giving false information. I’m not suggesting that he intentionally did that, but he very obviously did not read “Slave, Women, and Homosexuals” (or he did and is changing what the book was talking about). No where in the book does the author say that we will get to a point where homosexuality will be biblically correct. The author uses slaves and women as examples of themes in the Bible that seem to take an upward swing, and then uses homosexuality as a theme that very obviously never takes that upward swing… therefore it never changes at all from the position that it is wrong is God’s eyes.

Mistakes are understandable, but with this mistake he basically claimed to have evidence that Bell was fine with homosexuality… not a accusation to throw around lightly.

I am not in agreement with Driscoll on his claims of heresy necessarily. Also, Bell, McLaren, and Pagitt are at three different “distances” from the conservatives view of orthodoxy (in their respective order).

]]> By: Michael http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-emergent-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-625 Michael Fri, 16 Nov 2007 08:10:25 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-has-some-strong-word-for-some-emergent-leaders/#comment-625 Dan, Are you going to reply? Dan,

Are you going to reply?

]]> By: Shane Trammel http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-emergent-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-368 Shane Trammel Tue, 25 Sep 2007 13:30:17 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-has-some-strong-word-for-some-emergent-leaders/#comment-368 Dan, Maybe I should be more specific with some of my concerns. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts here. I agree that many people make claims they can not support with facts. I would love to discuss some of my questions with you if you are open to that. I have no problem admitting I am wrong if indeed I am. I hope that could be said of you as well. Are you in agreement with Mark regarding his concerns of Brian McLaren, Rob Bell, and Doug Pagitt. Shane Dan,

Maybe I should be more specific with some of my concerns. Thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts here. I agree that many people make claims they can not support with facts. I would love to discuss some of my questions with you if you are open to that. I have no problem admitting I am wrong if indeed I am. I hope that could be said of you as well.

Are you in agreement with Mark regarding his concerns of Brian McLaren, Rob Bell, and Doug Pagitt.

Shane

]]> By: Dan http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-emergent-leaders/comment-page-1/#comment-364 Dan Tue, 25 Sep 2007 07:27:19 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/09/25/mark-driscoll-has-some-strong-word-for-some-emergent-leaders/#comment-364 hello- mark and i have had personal discussions about theology and beliefs and he is reporting accurately. most people who make claims about another's beliefs, don't take the time to do what mark has done or if they hear different don't want to admit they might be wrong and that we are evangelical in doctrine. hope this helps , Dan hello-

mark and i have had personal discussions about theology and beliefs and he is reporting accurately. most people who make claims about another’s beliefs, don’t take the time to do what mark has done or if they hear different don’t want to admit they might be wrong and that we are evangelical in doctrine.

hope this helps ,

Dan

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