Comments on: The Death of Discernment In The Church http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/ A place to grow in the wisdom and knowledge of God! Wed, 03 Mar 2010 07:11:51 -0800 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Martha http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-1667 Martha Tue, 26 Aug 2008 03:03:50 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/#comment-1667 I picked this up on the web after reading about Jackie Roesse (sp?) being named a preacher at IBC. A friend and I were at IBC Women's Bible Study last year (Fall 07) and had our red flags go up. We discerned a radical feminist attitude there.It was really hard to put our finger on it too. Honestly, we also got into a debate with Jackie on E mail because one of her proteges alluded to the fact that God could be feminine in nature in one of the presentations there. They use a lot of art there to demonstrate. We felt that anything that is not totally clear and puts a question into our minds about the nature of God is definitely not real truth. We left. The Holy Spirit is very powerful. He spoke to us and told us to leave that Bible study. What is exciting is how God worked to reveal this to us , even when we were least expecting it. We are not BIblical scholars, but we have been in a few Bible studies. I picked this up on the web after reading about Jackie Roesse (sp?) being named a preacher at IBC. A friend and I were at IBC Women’s Bible Study last year (Fall 07) and had our red flags go up. We discerned a radical feminist attitude there.It was really hard to put our finger on it too. Honestly, we also got into a debate with Jackie on E mail because one of her proteges alluded to the fact that God could be feminine in nature in one of the presentations there. They use a lot of art there to demonstrate. We felt that anything that is not totally clear and puts a question into our minds about the nature of God is definitely not real truth.
We left. The Holy Spirit is very powerful. He spoke to us and told us to leave that Bible study. What is exciting is how God worked to reveal this to us , even when we were least expecting it. We are not BIblical scholars, but we have been in a few Bible studies.

]]> By: Angela http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-1558 Angela Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:53:32 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/#comment-1558 I am so glad to have found your article! We left IBC last summer, because we felt the Lord was showing us we were not being fed by the sermons from Pastor Andy. Even though I felt this way, I still felt kinda guilty for leaving, but your article has given me confirmation that we did the right thing. Thanks I am so glad to have found your article!

We left IBC last summer, because we felt the Lord was showing us we were not being fed by the sermons from Pastor Andy.

Even though I felt this way, I still felt kinda guilty for leaving, but your article has given me confirmation that we did the right thing.

Thanks

]]> By: Terri LaClaire http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-1478 Terri LaClaire Thu, 03 Apr 2008 16:47:39 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/#comment-1478 I found this article to be in excellent form. I have been a Believer for 35 years and have been to many different denominational churches, including studying at a Bible College of the same denomination as A.W.Tozer. Unfortunately what continues to nag me is who decided how church is supposed to be "practiced". Jesus and His deciples went to Synagogue. The New Testament church was a group of home churches overseen by women and men of the Gospel. The 20-45 minute sermon by a "certified" preacher, with a prayer or two, a couple of hymns or worship songs format is not taken from Scripture. Church is quickly becoming a corporation with a preacher CEO and a money draining staff, not to mention buildings and costs that are again not scriptural. I think the home group format seems to be closer to the New Testament church. In smaller groups it is most deffinetly easier to discern, for the Spirit is able to speak in a way we can listen without all the rucous. I think that we are all so busy playing church as created by Western Civilization that we DON'T take time to practice discernment. I found this article to be in excellent form. I have been a Believer for 35 years and have been to many different denominational churches, including studying at a Bible College of the same denomination as A.W.Tozer.
Unfortunately what continues to nag me is who decided how church is supposed to be “practiced”.
Jesus and His deciples went to Synagogue. The New Testament church was a group of home churches overseen by women and men of the Gospel.
The 20-45 minute sermon by a “certified” preacher, with a prayer or two, a couple of hymns or worship songs format is not taken from Scripture. Church is quickly becoming a corporation with a preacher CEO and a money draining staff, not to mention buildings and costs that are again not scriptural.
I think the home group format seems to be closer to the New Testament church. In smaller groups it is most deffinetly easier to discern, for the Spirit is able to speak in a way we can listen without all the rucous.
I think that we are all so busy playing church as created by Western Civilization that we DON’T take time to practice discernment.

]]> By: Mark Driscoll catching some heat over his Song of Solomon Video Clip | Shane Trammel’s Blog http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-1366 Mark Driscoll catching some heat over his Song of Solomon Video Clip | Shane Trammel’s Blog Mon, 03 Mar 2008 06:56:39 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/#comment-1366 [...] are a few excerpts from my post, The Death of Discernment In The Church, which highlights some of what McQuitty is about. The pastor, Andy McQuitty, has publicly stated [...] [...] are a few excerpts from my post, The Death of Discernment In The Church, which highlights some of what McQuitty is about. The pastor, Andy McQuitty, has publicly stated [...]

]]> By: Chris http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-1364 Chris Sun, 02 Mar 2008 21:07:09 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/#comment-1364 The problem is "touch not Gods anointed" but the truth is they are mostly "self appointed! regards, Chris The problem is “touch not Gods anointed” but the truth is they are mostly “self appointed!
regards, Chris

]]> By: Shane Trammel http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-1251 Shane Trammel Sat, 26 Jan 2008 23:55:31 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/#comment-1251 Aliza, What a pleasure to know that someone was blessed by our efforts here. To God be the glory. Editor Aliza,

What a pleasure to know that someone was blessed by our efforts here. To God be the glory.

Editor

]]> By: ALIZA JAMES http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-1250 ALIZA JAMES Sat, 26 Jan 2008 21:36:18 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/#comment-1250 I really enjoyed reading this article. I especially enjoyed the "How are we to judge?" part of the article. I have been struggling to find an response to the "Dont judge me" comment that i hear from many people (professing christians and non-christians alike). You explained this beautifully. May the Lord continue to bless you in your studies of scripture I really enjoyed reading this article. I especially enjoyed the “How are we to judge?” part of the article. I have been struggling to find an response to the “Dont judge me” comment that i hear from many people (professing christians and non-christians alike). You explained this beautifully. May the Lord continue to bless you in your studies of scripture

]]> By: Shane Trammel http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-1000 Shane Trammel Tue, 04 Dec 2007 06:20:43 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/#comment-1000 Holly, I would like to hear more of your story about IBC some time if you would be open to sharing it. Where do you now attend? Editor Holly,

I would like to hear more of your story about IBC some time if you would be open to sharing it.

Where do you now attend?

Editor

]]> By: Holly http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/comment-page-1/#comment-997 Holly Tue, 04 Dec 2007 03:18:40 +0000 http://blog.shanetrammel.com/2007/07/09/the-death-of-discernment-in-the-church/#comment-997 I left IBC because of the clear evidence that they were becoming a part of the Emergent Conversation movement. I was a member there for 35 years. I left IBC because of the clear evidence that they were becoming a part of the Emergent Conversation movement. I was a member there for 35 years.

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